Musk: Soros hacked system with NGO graft machine

By Tim Hains, RealClearPolitics – February 28, 2025

Elon Musk spoke about how non-government organizations (NGOs) are used by people like George Soros to extract money from the government, Friday on the “Joe Rogan Experience” podcast (full video at the bottom of the page).

“The whole ‘NGO’ thing is a nightmare,” Musk said. “And it’s a misnomer because if you have a government-funded non-governmental organization, you’re simply a government-funded organization. It’s an oxymoron.”

“We’ve seen cases where one person was getting $1.9 billion sent to their NGO, which had basically been formed about a year ago and had no prior activity.”

“George Soros is a systems hacker. He is a genius arbitrager. He figured out that you could leverage a small amount of money to create a non-profit and then lobby politicians to send a ton of money to that non-profit so you can take what might be a $10M donation and leverage it into a $1 Billion NGO.”

“And ‘nonprofit’ is a weird word. It’s just a non-governmental organization. The government continues to fund it every year, and it’ll have a nice-sounding name like The Institute for Peace or something like that. But really, it’s a graft machine.”

He added: “It does some good. So it’s not like 0% good. If it was really 0% good, it would be much easier to attack. So there’s going to be some percentage of good that they add in there. But it might be 5% or 10% good, while 90–95% is not.”

JOE ROGAN: When you guys first started investigating it, how much of it was shocking, like just the size of it all?

ELON MUSK: Well, the size of it all, small decisions result in multibillion-dollar outcomes. So, you know, we’d see cases where one person was getting $1.9 billion sent to their NGO, which had basically been formed about a year ago and had no prior activity.

So they just stand up an NGO. The whole “NGO” thing is a nightmare, and it’s a misnomer because if you have a government-funded non-governmental organization, you’re simply a government-funded organization. It’s an oxymoron.

JOE ROGAN: It’s a loophole.

ELON MUSK: Yes, basically, government-funded NGOs are a way to do things that would be illegal if they were the government but are somehow made legal if the money is sent to a so-called nonprofit.

But these nonprofits are then used by people to cash out. They become very wealthy through nonprofits. They pay themselves enormous sums through these nonprofits.

JOE ROGAN: It’s insane that this has been going on for so long.

ELON MUSK: It’s a gigantic scam—one of the biggest, maybe the biggest scam ever.

JOE ROGAN: And how many NGOs are there?

ELON MUSK: I think the total number of NGOs is probably in the millions, but in terms of large NGOs—tens of thousands.

It’s actually kind of a hack to the system where someone can get an NGO stood up for a fairly small amount of money. George Soros was really good at this. He’s like a system hacker. He figured out how to hack the system. He’s a genius at arbitrage. I mean, these days, he’s pretty old, but he was a genius at arbitrage.

He figured out that you could leverage a small amount of money to create a nonprofit, then lobby politicians to send a ton of money to that nonprofit. So you can take what might be a $10 million donation to create a nonprofit and leverage that into a billion-dollar NGO.

And “nonprofit” is a weird word. It’s just a non-governmental organization. The government continues to fund it every year, and it’ll have a nice-sounding name like The Institute for Peace or something like that. But really, it’s a graft machine.

JOE ROGAN: And what are the requirements for that money? What do they have to do?

ELON MUSK: Really, no requirements at all.

JOE ROGAN: So they just get grants, and the government assumes they’re doing good work?

ELON MUSK: I think a lot of people in the government know that they’re not doing good work, but it’s a giant graft machine. But when people start unpacking this.

JOE ROGAN: It almost seems fake. We were covering this article that said 55,000 Democrat NGOs were discovered that had been contributing to campaigns, moving things around, and pushing propaganda. They were all connected, and they found it through AI. You have to go through steps and steps and steps to figure out where the money’s coming from. Oh, it’s all funneling down to this group, and this group does that.

Yeah, it’s a giant propaganda machine, a giant regime-change machine.

But doesn’t it do some good as well?

ELON MUSK: It does some good. So it’s not like 0% good. If it was really 0% good, it would be much easier to attack. So there’s going to be some percentage of good that they add in there. But it might be 5% or 10% good, while 90–95% is not.